.
The known universe?
14,000,000,000 BCE??
.
Earth?
5,000,000,000 BCE??
.
Homo sapiens?
300,000 BCE??
.
Fire (applied)?
200,000 BCE??
.
The underlying law of nature (discovered & applied)?
2003 CE
.
andy thompson has an article in scientific american (i think) where he looks at depression as an evolved response to social(mostly) dilemmas just like fever is an immune response to infection. He shows how the mind becomes more analytical and better at solving problems when depressed, also the way we cope ie becoming socially retracted and deriving little pleasure from life gives us more time to solve the problem at hand. He shows how rumination often resolves depression quicker than meds
Man this guy’s the best. I expected a stuck up, aging hippie professor BUT HE’S NOT! He’s organized, striaght-forward, and he knows his shit. Excellent lecture.
RUInternational There is hope for the Hopeless that are struggling with depression. Reformers Unanimous is a? faith-based addictions program. We maintain an 82% percent success rate! Check us out @Ruinternational.
@GBJ83 omg I can’t believe how many thumbs down your comment got. These people need to lighten up. Oh wait, I guess it IS on a depression lecture hahaha.
It’s not like we’d be watching this unless we were interested in complex behavioral neurobiology anyways yeesh. Grow some funny.
You may be interested in last week’s New York Times article, The Americanization of Mental Illness
” There is now good evidence to suggest that in the process of teaching the rest of the world to think like us, weve been exporting our Western symptom repertoire as well.
“Indeed, a handful of mental-health disorders — depression, post-traumatic…”
Yes, the symptoms of disease do in fact reflect one’s socially embedded purpose. Big pharma and their paid physicians and universities may not care to pursue the meaning of this fact, for myriad economic reasons, but you can and certainly may, i.e., if your goal is to understand behaviour to advance health and growth first and foremost.
Intentionally vague, no. Character limit imposed by YouTube, sadly, yes. : (
Your insinuation of medicine being material here is misguided.
Illness, which medicine clings to for meaning, is at cross purposes with health, growth and the understanding of behaviour, depressive or other. (There are many reasons for this. Big pharma for one.)
Imagine for a moment that our understanding of behaviour depended upon an understanding of medicine. What would be the result?
Could it be widespread misunderstanding and videos as this?
First of all, the word is “embedded”, not “imbedded”. Secondly, what is the “social imbedded [sic] (indivisible) purpose of say, beta-amyloid plaques and widespread neuronal cell death in an Alzheimer’s patient. These are manifested in obvious disability but the behavior doesn’t “reflect a socially imbedded [sic] (indivisible) purpose” does it? What is meant by that? Are you being intentionally vague?
Your metaphors are tiresome and useless. Depression is a cellular phenomenon. Duh….
“Symptoms” are patient-reported disabilities, deficits, etc. “Signs” are what the physician observes. “Purpose first” is overly reductive and teleological and will hinder any understanding of medicine you are hoping to develop.
Scientists don’t begin with a conclusion (say, about behavior), then seek out evidence that affirms their hypothesis.
Your broken limb of a tree metaphor, though poetic, isn’t neurobiology, sorry.
As you know, all behaviour reflects a socially imbedded (indivisible) purpose.
Please articulate the purpose of depressive behaviour, i.e., if you can or would.
A treatise or lecture on the symptoms of behaviour, biological or other, is akin to focussing on water under the bridge.
By understanding the purpose of depressive behaviour your viewers will be in a magnificent position to prevent and avoid it, which is what I believe you had hoped to teach. Yes?
Your choice of the word manifestations goes to affirm the points you rebutted. Manifestations are but symptoms, effects and results of one’s purposive behaviour. Purpose first. Then symptoms.
To focus on manifestations or symptoms of behaviour (i.e., as a means to grasp behaviour) is akin to studying the broken limb of a tree in attempt to glean causes and principles of health and growth. it’s a dead end.
The tree inevitably produces biological symptoms of a broken branch.
The? most fundamental question of all: What is The underlying law of nature.
.
The known universe?
14,000,000,000 BCE??
.
Earth?
5,000,000,000 BCE??
.
Homo sapiens?
300,000 BCE??
.
Fire (applied)?
200,000 BCE??
.
The underlying law of nature (discovered & applied)?
2003 CE
.
andy thompson has an article in scientific american (i think) where he looks at depression as an evolved response to social(mostly) dilemmas just like fever is an immune response to infection. He shows how the mind becomes more analytical and better at solving problems when depressed, also the way we cope ie becoming socially retracted and deriving little pleasure from life gives us more time to solve the problem at hand. He shows how rumination often resolves depression quicker than meds
Man this guy’s the best. I expected a stuck up, aging hippie professor BUT HE’S NOT! He’s organized, striaght-forward, and he knows his shit. Excellent lecture.
RUInternational There is hope for the Hopeless that are struggling with depression. Reformers Unanimous is a? faith-based addictions program. We maintain an 82% percent success rate! Check us out @Ruinternational.
not learned helplessness, but learned uselessness
Professor Sapolsky is awesome.. both his research approach and discourse are unconventional and I love it. =0)
This guy is brilliant. Not only is he brilliant, he takes it past the science in his understanding and it shows he cares as well.
i learnt a lot from this guy and his other lectures on utube, but boy thanks for reminding me of my comment. LOL again
and you’re right, why people have marked the comment down is beyond me. lighten up folks 🙂
@GBJ83 omg I can’t believe how many thumbs down your comment got. These people need to lighten up. Oh wait, I guess it IS on a depression lecture hahaha.
It’s not like we’d be watching this unless we were interested in complex behavioral neurobiology anyways yeesh. Grow some funny.
damn, he needs a haircut
btw im very depressed
Thank you ! I wish I could have studied under Professor Sapolsky.
hehe its true though, no?
@GBJ83 Ahahahahhah best comment ever
anyoen notice his peepee in his jeans? quite funny cus the girl who sat on the floor in the corner couldnt take her eyes off 😛
miauu ist nice, wenn de singel bist FrauenMeister . com dort wird dir geholfen
Seems to be that depression is just a symptom of several different health problems caused by phisiological or psychologycal problems as well.
@sleepcity
You may be interested in last week’s New York Times article, The Americanization of Mental Illness
” There is now good evidence to suggest that in the process of teaching the rest of the world to think like us, weve been exporting our Western symptom repertoire as well.
“Indeed, a handful of mental-health disorders — depression, post-traumatic…”
what is the other end
@sleepcity, again
re “First of all, the”
Yes, the symptoms of disease do in fact reflect one’s socially embedded purpose. Big pharma and their paid physicians and universities may not care to pursue the meaning of this fact, for myriad economic reasons, but you can and certainly may, i.e., if your goal is to understand behaviour to advance health and growth first and foremost.
Intentionally vague, no. Character limit imposed by YouTube, sadly, yes. : (
Cheers.
@sleepcity,
re “Um, no. You’re wrong.”
Your insinuation of medicine being material here is misguided.
Illness, which medicine clings to for meaning, is at cross purposes with health, growth and the understanding of behaviour, depressive or other. (There are many reasons for this. Big pharma for one.)
Imagine for a moment that our understanding of behaviour depended upon an understanding of medicine. What would be the result?
Could it be widespread misunderstanding and videos as this?
First of all, the word is “embedded”, not “imbedded”. Secondly, what is the “social imbedded [sic] (indivisible) purpose of say, beta-amyloid plaques and widespread neuronal cell death in an Alzheimer’s patient. These are manifested in obvious disability but the behavior doesn’t “reflect a socially imbedded [sic] (indivisible) purpose” does it? What is meant by that? Are you being intentionally vague?
Your metaphors are tiresome and useless. Depression is a cellular phenomenon. Duh….
Um, no. You’re wrong.
“Symptoms” are patient-reported disabilities, deficits, etc. “Signs” are what the physician observes. “Purpose first” is overly reductive and teleological and will hinder any understanding of medicine you are hoping to develop.
Scientists don’t begin with a conclusion (say, about behavior), then seek out evidence that affirms their hypothesis.
Your broken limb of a tree metaphor, though poetic, isn’t neurobiology, sorry.
Professor Sapolsky,
As you know, all behaviour reflects a socially imbedded (indivisible) purpose.
Please articulate the purpose of depressive behaviour, i.e., if you can or would.
A treatise or lecture on the symptoms of behaviour, biological or other, is akin to focussing on water under the bridge.
By understanding the purpose of depressive behaviour your viewers will be in a magnificent position to prevent and avoid it, which is what I believe you had hoped to teach. Yes?
Cheers.
@ sleepcity,
Your choice of the word manifestations goes to affirm the points you rebutted. Manifestations are but symptoms, effects and results of one’s purposive behaviour. Purpose first. Then symptoms.
To focus on manifestations or symptoms of behaviour (i.e., as a means to grasp behaviour) is akin to studying the broken limb of a tree in attempt to glean causes and principles of health and growth. it’s a dead end.
The tree inevitably produces biological symptoms of a broken branch.